Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/19/2002 02:00 PM Senate L&C

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
            SB 202-EMPLOYMENT OF PERSONS UNDER AGE 19                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHIARMAN STEVENS announced SB 202 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DEBORAH GRUNDMANN  said that  SB 202  is a  Senate Labor  and                                                              
Commerce bill  by request  of the former  chair of the  committee.                                                              
She  said  it  is  a  companion  to  a  House  bill  sponsored  by                                                              
Representative Harris.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHN MANLEY,  Staff to Representative John  Harris, sponsor of                                                              
companion bill, HB  226, said it was introduced at  the request of                                                              
a constituent in Valdez.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The original  intent of the  bill was to make  it easier                                                                   
     for  seasonal employers  in the tourist  business to  be                                                                   
     able to get kids employed on  their staff to help out in                                                                   
     the height  of the tourist season.  If they are  under a                                                                   
     certain age,  they cannot work in a hotel  or restaurant                                                                   
     where  alcohol is  served  because of  the  laws of  the                                                                   
     state. It makes  it difficult especially in  some of the                                                                   
     smaller areas of the state,  like Valdez, to obtain kids                                                                   
     to employ in the summer time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
This bill's hearing in the House  Labor and Commerce committee was                                                              
not well received,  but he understands this hearing  was requested                                                              
by Senator Green.  He pointed out section 4 deals  with employment                                                              
of children section  of the Labor and Worker's  Compensation Title                                                              
to regulate what  time and hours per week minors  under the age of                                                              
16 could work and changes to conform  with federal limits. Section                                                              
5 has  to do with 14  - 16 years  old working at  certain sporting                                                              
events in  school supervised work  programs. He would like  to see                                                              
both of those sections in a committee substitute.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Another issue  is the control of  alcohol by person under  age and                                                              
as interpreted  by the ABC Board,  when they are operating  a cash                                                              
register and ringing  out a tab for someone who  might have bought                                                              
a beer with their dinner, this is not allowed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN asked what the definition of premises was.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MANLEY  explained  that this  problem arose  at the Totem  Inn                                                              
that also has a bar. So none of their maids can be minors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOUG GRIFFIN,  Alcohol and  Beverage  Control Board,  replied                                                              
that delivery of  alcohol by room service would  include the hotel                                                              
rooms as  well as the  bar and restaurant  where alcohol  is being                                                              
served under  "licensed premises."  "Otherwise you'd run  afoul of                                                              
taking alcoholic beverages  off of the licensed  premise and you'd                                                              
occur other problems with Title 4…."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS asked what concerns the House had.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MANLEY  replied  that  their   concern  was  that  they  were                                                              
expanding  the universe  of where  teenagers could  be in  contact                                                              
with alcohol and they thought that was not good public policy.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICK  MASTRIANO, Director,  Labor Standards  and Safety,  said                                                              
his concerns were that the department  currently has a work permit                                                              
process for 14 - 16 year olds saying  that they are prenotified of                                                              
the  employment of  the child,  what  they're going  to be  doing,                                                              
where they're  going to be working  and how much they're  going to                                                              
be paid  and that the  parent or legal  guardian knows  that their                                                              
child is in fact going to be working.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Under this bill, the department would  not be notified for 10 days                                                              
and in some cases  there is no requirement that  the department be                                                              
notified. The department also requires  people under the age of 19                                                              
to maintain a  work permit and this legislation  eliminates all of                                                              
those requirements.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MASTRIANO  said if the ABC  Board does not consider  the rooms                                                              
part of the licensed  premises, they would allow a  14 year old to                                                              
work in those  rooms. If rooms  are considered part of  a licensed                                                              
premise where  room service  could deliver  alcohol, they  are not                                                              
allowed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We like  some parts  of the bill.  We like bringing  the                                                                   
     bill in line  with the federal guidelines  for the times                                                                   
     that the  kids are going to  be working - the 14  and 15                                                                   
     year olds,  but we do not  like the idea that  we're not                                                                   
     notified of what they're going  to be doing or that they                                                                   
     have  to  have a  work  permit in  order  to do  it.  It                                                                   
     conflicts  with   our  43.10.332,  which   requires  the                                                                   
     commissioner  to approve any  of those works  for people                                                                   
     under the age of 16.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS  asked if  he had  problems with sections  1                                                                   
and 6, but not 4 or 5.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MASTRIANO replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRIFFIN  supported Mr.  Mastriano's comments. They  think                                                                   
the prior notification and exemption  is an important part of                                                                   
the law.  He said more  and more studies  have come  to light                                                                   
showing a correlation between how  soon a young person begins                                                                   
to consume  alcohol and  having problems  with alcohol  abuse                                                                   
later in  life. He  said that  they don't  have the staff  to                                                                   
have oversight of this either.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
They allow  underage people  to operate  cash registers  and allow                                                              
them  to handle  bills with  alcohol on  them, but  they have  had                                                              
problems  where  the restaurants  are  cafeteria  style  including                                                              
picking  up an  alcoholic beverage  and  then paying  at the  cash                                                              
register.  That is different  because  that is  where the sale  is                                                              
being made.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS  said this  bill wasn't going  to move,  but they                                                              
would work on a committee substitute  or a bill that would address                                                              
the issues in sections 4 and 5.                                                                                                 

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